Hi TMS, I enjoyed your original post. You have a PM.
Len
it was the summer of '72.
i was 24 but had been the presiding overseer or congregation servant of a small congregation in the county seat of an arkansas county for about 3 years.. my regular pioneer wife of nearly four years was big and pregnant, with our attempts at birth control unsuccessful.. one of my wife's several bible studies was with a young woman named brenda whom my wife had encountered in door to door work.. brenda had two young children she could barely handle and was married to a very countryfied arkie named henry who worked as a chicken catcher, one of the most difficult jobs at the local chicken plant.. brenda eventually revealed that she'd been raised as a jw, but was never baptized, having left home to marry henry at age 14. she spoke of her family in texas, mentioning her mother and two older sisters, all jws she said.. one morning, just before the meeting for field service, we noticed a small car in kingdom hall parking lot.
my wife and i were parked to one side of the hall in our aluminum nashua house trailer.. two young women got out of the car and soon joined us for the meeting for service, identifying themselves as brenda's sisters from texas.. the two girls, ages 17 and 20, were distractingly beautiful, with the eldest decked out like a magnificent southern belle including hat and heels, her high-end clothing accentuating her very obvious curves.. with no one else showing up for field service, it ended up just the four of us in the car group with the two texas girls in the back seat.. starting our time at a not-at-home, the 20 year old asked if she could accompany me to "hear my presentation.
Hi TMS, I enjoyed your original post. You have a PM.
Len
What gives? A video of a group of people arrive at an airport, greeted by a crowd of admirers. All are moving and walking in sync to some audio music or beat. Are they JWs? Who knows?
the new head-of-the-house max has a problem with how his new stepdaughter (olivia) looks and dresses.. on the friday afternoon part 2 convention video @ 18:10 max 1st brings it up with olivia while in the kitchen!
then fast forward to 26:50 thru 27:65 max bellyaches to new wife (olivia's mother) & it's handled!
message to all rank & file jws....no more fashion torn jeans & beach sandles: :) :) :).
As to tight pants -- our weatherman must be gay. Also, most of the men's PGA during tournament play.
obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.
forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.
the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.
Two of Watchtower's friends are elapsed time and poor memories.
Most JWs (and perhaps some on this board) aren't aware that the "beginning of the time of the end" year 1914 had a predecessor -- 1799. How Watchtower wriggled out of that 1799 date may help us understand how they will try to wriggle out of its replacement year, 1914.
What Watchtower said 125 years ago:
'As already pointed out in MILLENNIAL DAWN, the great prophetic period termed "The Day of His Preparation," began in 1799 and will end with 1914: and it is the advancement of this "day" and the light which God provides, necessary for its work, that has brought the wonders of the present, and is rapidly now bringing on the conditions for the great time of trouble, for the overthrow of present imperfect conditions and the establishment of the Kingdom of God's dear Son.' Zion's Watch Tower, July 1, 1897 p 194.
What Watchtower said 114 years ago:
'The “Time of the End,” a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A. D. 1799 to A. D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. “The Day of His Preparation” is another name given to the same period, because in it a general increase of knowledge, resulting in discoveries, inventions, etc., paves the way to the coming Millennium of favor, making ready the mechanical devices which will economize labor, and provide the world in general with time and conveniences, which under Christ’s reign of righteousness will be a blessing to all and aid in filling the earth with the knowledge of the Lord.' Millenial Dawn, Thy Kingdom Come (1908) p 23.
Then -- What Watchtower said to wriggle out from 1799 some 15 years after 1914.
“For a long while it has been understood that "the time of the end" began with 1799 A.D. and con- tinued until 1914, and that the beginning thereof is specifically marked by the fact that Papacy at that time received a severe blow. While many facts seem to support that conclusion, the proof is not by any means conclusive. Such may have been a miniature fulfilment.” The Watch Tower, Dec 1, 1929 p. 355
Also:
“ Taking all these scriptures together, and knowing that they must be in exact harmony with one another, and taking the well known facts in connection therewith, it is easy to be seen that the definitely fixed "time of the end" was and is 1914 A.D. Nothing came to pass in 1799 that corresponds so well with these prophecies as did in 1914.” The Watch Tower, Dec 1, 1929 p. 357
remarkable sister pettifog.
this morning i arrived on my bicycle at the local starbucks early and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.. that’s when it happened--a group of 3 older ladies at one of the other tables outside rose to leave and one of them walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.
i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.
Thanks, Terry, for fleshing out your Pettifog experience. Very revealing, indeed.
Len
i was blown away when i found these watchtower records with rutherford on them.
these aren't the ones that were used door to door.
these are 16 inch records that were sent to radio stations to broadcast rutherford over the airwaves.
Hi Blondie,
It's so good to see you're still kicking.
Len Miller
the following is a conversation i had with my pimi father regarding a news segment on tv dealing with csa.
joe: that’s terrible the incidences of csa happening in the community.
dad: yes it is.
C sa?
Amen
so i was watching an evans video he just put out where he was interviewing a man about how the cult treated his daughter who was rapped as a criminal.
the man said his wife's first experience with an apostate site was here.
i could tell by the look on his face he did not like that site and then could not help himself and said that he could not recommend going to this site.
Jofi_Wofo
Excellent comments. Yes, this site is mainstream right with staunch supporters of Trump and his ilk. While I voted for the man the first time around, I wouldn't give him the time of day -- as if he needs it.
While McCain was incarcerated for more than 5 years, Trump spent his time ogling women and golfing. To make it worse he called McCain a coward for being captured.
"Presidential candidate Donald Trump sparked yet another backlash among his fellow Republican candidates Saturday when he said that Sen. John McCain was only considered a war hero because he was captured - and seemed to mock him for that fact."
As to Evans, he is doing a great service with his videos. He's not perfect, nor is this site -- which I used to love 16 years ago when I joined and when the issues were mainly Watchtower and its dropouts and experiences. When those topics thinned out it shifted to the political spectrum.
hi friends,.
are here still some oldtimers from the earlier jwd time?
gorby .
I've been here some 16 years, out of org for 44 years.